logiclife
12-22 06:03 PM
There is no such thing as "H1B grace period". Nowhere in Immigration laws or USCIS regulations there is anything like a fixed number.
You are out of status(not illegal) when you stop working. If you are laid off suddenly, you are out of status.
Most people are ok coz they find new job and starting working and the "gap" in employment is usually less than a month. If its more than a month then you can face inquiries during H1B transfer to your new employer about your gap and they may ask you for missing paystubs. If you cant provide paystubs for the gap in employment between jobs, then it can go 2 ways:
1. They will give you H1 approval with I-94 attached at bottom ... meaning H1 petition is approval and the transfer is also approved.
2. If you are unluckly, the would give you just the I-797 H1 approval without the I-94 attached at the bottom of 797. That means that H1 petition for new employer is approved but the transfer is not approved. Then in that case you are required to travel out of the country and get another I-94 to get back in status.
This loosely defined grace period is a pain for those who work in consulting and switch jobs or those who get laid off without advance notice.
You are out of status(not illegal) when you stop working. If you are laid off suddenly, you are out of status.
Most people are ok coz they find new job and starting working and the "gap" in employment is usually less than a month. If its more than a month then you can face inquiries during H1B transfer to your new employer about your gap and they may ask you for missing paystubs. If you cant provide paystubs for the gap in employment between jobs, then it can go 2 ways:
1. They will give you H1 approval with I-94 attached at bottom ... meaning H1 petition is approval and the transfer is also approved.
2. If you are unluckly, the would give you just the I-797 H1 approval without the I-94 attached at the bottom of 797. That means that H1 petition for new employer is approved but the transfer is not approved. Then in that case you are required to travel out of the country and get another I-94 to get back in status.
This loosely defined grace period is a pain for those who work in consulting and switch jobs or those who get laid off without advance notice.
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makemygc
07-18 12:12 PM
There's no need for you to be negative.
Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....
wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
I edited my previous message as I do agree I sounded negative but that's not what I mean.
Some of my suggestions:-
1. Creating a petition and getting it signed by more than 10000 victims stuck in BEC and sending it to relevant people in congress and USCIS.
2. Doing a rally in NY, Sanjose etc.
3. Working closely with USCIS and IV core and see how we can improve the situation.
Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....
wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?
I edited my previous message as I do agree I sounded negative but that's not what I mean.
Some of my suggestions:-
1. Creating a petition and getting it signed by more than 10000 victims stuck in BEC and sending it to relevant people in congress and USCIS.
2. Doing a rally in NY, Sanjose etc.
3. Working closely with USCIS and IV core and see how we can improve the situation.
insbaby
07-14 12:43 PM
I called uscis and they have asked me to refile I-765. They said they will issue new EAD with extended dates. Not sure how long will it take. And i dont believe issuing 3 month EAD was intentional. They probbaly wont have any idea when the 485 would be adjudicated when they approve EAD.
You have PD as Nov 2005, EB2.
Now the VB is on 2006.
They must have known atleast a month back.
They issued just 3 months extension
All matching perfectly and result will be good one for you....
You have PD as Nov 2005, EB2.
Now the VB is on 2006.
They must have known atleast a month back.
They issued just 3 months extension
All matching perfectly and result will be good one for you....
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pitha
02-27 04:47 PM
It is worse than your estimates below because when green card is issued spouse and children are also counted in the quota unlike the h1 where spouse and children are not counted in the quota. Even if we assume each green card applicat has only one child, there would be 3 visa numbers used for each GC applicant. Going by that India has a demand for 150K GC as per the perm statistics but it gets only about 10000 per year. At this rate people from India who applied for GC in 06 and 07 would have to wait about 15 years and 30 years respectively to get the GC!!!!!!!!
About 25,000 PERM labors were approved in 2007 for Indian nationals. Assuming a 2.5:1 ratio of 'GC filed:Labor approved', implies that each year 62,500 GC are demanded by Indians under EB. Since only 10,000 are available (across all EB classes), this implies each year a backlog of 50,000 cases is created for Indians.
Since PD are essentially retrogressed from Nov. 2005, we can assume that since then another 100,000 Indians have joined the GC backlog. It can also be assumed that between 2001 and Nov. 2005 there must be another (atleast) 50,000 waiting for GC.
Assuming these numbers are correct, a person filing for labor today is looking to wait for atleast 15 years before getting a GC (150,000/10,000).
As for those wth PD prior to Nov. 2005 - well..... probably anywhere between 1 to 5 years .....
Comments on the analysis.........?
About 25,000 PERM labors were approved in 2007 for Indian nationals. Assuming a 2.5:1 ratio of 'GC filed:Labor approved', implies that each year 62,500 GC are demanded by Indians under EB. Since only 10,000 are available (across all EB classes), this implies each year a backlog of 50,000 cases is created for Indians.
Since PD are essentially retrogressed from Nov. 2005, we can assume that since then another 100,000 Indians have joined the GC backlog. It can also be assumed that between 2001 and Nov. 2005 there must be another (atleast) 50,000 waiting for GC.
Assuming these numbers are correct, a person filing for labor today is looking to wait for atleast 15 years before getting a GC (150,000/10,000).
As for those wth PD prior to Nov. 2005 - well..... probably anywhere between 1 to 5 years .....
Comments on the analysis.........?
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gc007
01-08 01:09 AM
I don't have any reference as such but as has been told earlier by someone..
""Technically, the visa is just permission and not a guarantee for re-entry. But I do not see how a new approved petition would affect it. Just make sure you carry the current & new approvals with you. In fact, if you present the new approval at the time of re-entry the officer can give you a I-94 with an expiry date that is the same as the expiry of the new approval !!""
..... I was just wondering if the officer at the time of re-entry stamps the date on the I-94 with current approval date on the passport instead of the new approval then it may be req to get your extention upon the expire of that date.
Again this is something an attorney can tell for sure.
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""Technically, the visa is just permission and not a guarantee for re-entry. But I do not see how a new approved petition would affect it. Just make sure you carry the current & new approvals with you. In fact, if you present the new approval at the time of re-entry the officer can give you a I-94 with an expiry date that is the same as the expiry of the new approval !!""
..... I was just wondering if the officer at the time of re-entry stamps the date on the I-94 with current approval date on the passport instead of the new approval then it may be req to get your extention upon the expire of that date.
Again this is something an attorney can tell for sure.
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Ramba
05-01 11:21 AM
If you are 100% sure that your old 140 was not revoked by your previous employer, it can be useful in 2 ways. Contact your old employer to verify that still they have job for you as per the 140. If so, file new 485 with that 140 as it has very old PD. As you might have missed the finger printing in 2002, your previous 485 might have been denied. But 140 is still vaild for indefinite period.
If your old employer is not offering a job to file new 485, start new GC process with your new employer and port your priority date from your old approved 140.
If your old employer is not offering a job to file new 485, start new GC process with your new employer and port your priority date from your old approved 140.
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amsgc
09-02 01:11 AM
Thanks for collecting the data.
Assuming that:
- The above people also voted in the recent EB2I Poll (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum5-all-other-green-card-issues/414123-poll-to-sample-pending-eb2-india-pds.html) and
- The ratio of EB2I applicants who post on IV to total EB2I applicants is 1:100
Then, the USCIS approved roughly 1500 apps today.
Also, since EB2-I was at 2002 a few months ago, it means that these are only spill over visas. If this year is like any of the previous years, then EB2-I should get another 10,000 or so. This should be enough (based on the recent poll) to flush out almost all EB2I 2004 and prior applications.
Immigration Voice:
NSC:
cokeraj Jun 2004
sjagadeesan Jun 2004
nni123 Aug 2004
Nashim (co-worker) Nov 2004
aachoo Dec 2004
kurtz_wolfgang Dec 2004
TSC:
ganesha Apr 2004
NolaIndian32 04.30.2004
inskrish May 2004
Tortoise May 2004
GCWhru (dependent) Sep 2004
lotus26 (dependent) Sep 2004
adriansquare (NIW) Oct 2004
GCNirvana Dec 2004
mpek Dec 2004
Service Center Unknown:
arav_m Dec 2004
Assuming that:
- The above people also voted in the recent EB2I Poll (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum5-all-other-green-card-issues/414123-poll-to-sample-pending-eb2-india-pds.html) and
- The ratio of EB2I applicants who post on IV to total EB2I applicants is 1:100
Then, the USCIS approved roughly 1500 apps today.
Also, since EB2-I was at 2002 a few months ago, it means that these are only spill over visas. If this year is like any of the previous years, then EB2-I should get another 10,000 or so. This should be enough (based on the recent poll) to flush out almost all EB2I 2004 and prior applications.
Immigration Voice:
NSC:
cokeraj Jun 2004
sjagadeesan Jun 2004
nni123 Aug 2004
Nashim (co-worker) Nov 2004
aachoo Dec 2004
kurtz_wolfgang Dec 2004
TSC:
ganesha Apr 2004
NolaIndian32 04.30.2004
inskrish May 2004
Tortoise May 2004
GCWhru (dependent) Sep 2004
lotus26 (dependent) Sep 2004
adriansquare (NIW) Oct 2004
GCNirvana Dec 2004
mpek Dec 2004
Service Center Unknown:
arav_m Dec 2004
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mrajatish
06-08 03:18 PM
I agree - better be safe than sorry. My take - you are just unlucky, USCIS randomly picks folks who have been in the country for a while to see if they have ever been out of status. Likely, they are doing that with you.
Have you kept your I-20? Can you call your old Univ. to get payroll stubs (I think you can do that)?
Have you kept your I-20? Can you call your old Univ. to get payroll stubs (I think you can do that)?
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neogator
01-19 05:17 PM
If they were famous, popular, talented etc etc....wouldn't they be EB1 rather than EB3 .
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rsdang
11-21 05:27 PM
abandoning AP was what I was refereing to... but as I said please chek with your lawyer that if you leave country in the middle of the application is that a problem.
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eb3_nepa
09-21 11:56 PM
Call Harrisburg. They will be able to "expedite" the request.
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06-13 05:09 PM
Going through a bill, usually in subcommittee, section by section, revising language, amending sections etc and reach a consensus
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watertown
03-04 11:02 AM
Gurus,
I'm in Boston area and would like to know your opinion if I should file WOM!!!!
My case was filed in Aug, 2006 and I-485 was transferred to local office for interview on May 22, 2007. The interview went well and the lady officer indicated that I should get my card in 1 month!! That day was so nice!!!
Anyway, the reason for interview was I guess the previous I-485 submitted by my ex-wife after our seperation to put me in trouble in 2001 but I never took any benefit for that and I hand-delivered a letter to the IO when they asked me to come for interview in 2002. I explained that it should have been abandoned coz I sent letter even at the time for finger-print notice! Long story short, my ex and I had fight and I called the cop who took both of us to the custody and in the morning let us go. I didn't see the judge and.
So on this last I-485 (EB-2 ROW) I answered the question NO of if I had ever filled any immigration petition and NO to if I had ever been arrested.
Last year I was getting anxious when the card didn't arrive and Infopass told me that I was stuck in FBI-name check! I asked the congressman Ed Markey and his office told that my name check was cleared in Dec, 2006!!! I took another Infopass and again IO told me about Namecheck but when I told him about the info provided by Congressman, he then told me that it was going thru additional review!!
Now , guys....hsall I file a WOM? Whats your take?
I'm in Boston area and would like to know your opinion if I should file WOM!!!!
My case was filed in Aug, 2006 and I-485 was transferred to local office for interview on May 22, 2007. The interview went well and the lady officer indicated that I should get my card in 1 month!! That day was so nice!!!
Anyway, the reason for interview was I guess the previous I-485 submitted by my ex-wife after our seperation to put me in trouble in 2001 but I never took any benefit for that and I hand-delivered a letter to the IO when they asked me to come for interview in 2002. I explained that it should have been abandoned coz I sent letter even at the time for finger-print notice! Long story short, my ex and I had fight and I called the cop who took both of us to the custody and in the morning let us go. I didn't see the judge and.
So on this last I-485 (EB-2 ROW) I answered the question NO of if I had ever filled any immigration petition and NO to if I had ever been arrested.
Last year I was getting anxious when the card didn't arrive and Infopass told me that I was stuck in FBI-name check! I asked the congressman Ed Markey and his office told that my name check was cleared in Dec, 2006!!! I took another Infopass and again IO told me about Namecheck but when I told him about the info provided by Congressman, he then told me that it was going thru additional review!!
Now , guys....hsall I file a WOM? Whats your take?
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jonty_11
02-20 05:38 PM
guys, why even bother waste your time on this. Please help IV gear up a movement to end retrogression. Please donate, make other IV aware...and send in ur stories......How do u think number crunching will help us....apart from making us feel worse.
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ryanjoe_99
05-29 09:47 AM
I have an emergency to go to India to take care of my sickly mom and I need to return back to work on July first. I am also trying to get emergency appointment. I couldnt. Could you please suggest the way I can get emergency appointment in any of the consulate.
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uma001
08-18 05:19 PM
Guys,
I faced this problem myself. My wife was on H1 earlier and she never worked for a period of 1 year. At the beginning of the H1 period, we are expecting a baby and we took easy about her doing any job (its my fault). Later, market turned worse, it became to hard for her and her employer look for projects for her.
So, I contacted a lawyer (he is great). He told me that her status is H1 even though she is not working and she has to get back to H4. He assured me that they will for my documents more than her's and we filed as such and we don't even have her pay stubs or W2 forms.
She got in 45 days period and last week she went for H4 stamping, showing my documents. Yesterday, she got her passport back with H4 stamp.
What Nayekal says is correct. Even though technically your wife is out of status but she may gey H1 to H4 transfer approved without paystubs. Now she has to file immediately for H11 to H4
I faced this problem myself. My wife was on H1 earlier and she never worked for a period of 1 year. At the beginning of the H1 period, we are expecting a baby and we took easy about her doing any job (its my fault). Later, market turned worse, it became to hard for her and her employer look for projects for her.
So, I contacted a lawyer (he is great). He told me that her status is H1 even though she is not working and she has to get back to H4. He assured me that they will for my documents more than her's and we filed as such and we don't even have her pay stubs or W2 forms.
She got in 45 days period and last week she went for H4 stamping, showing my documents. Yesterday, she got her passport back with H4 stamp.
What Nayekal says is correct. Even though technically your wife is out of status but she may gey H1 to H4 transfer approved without paystubs. Now she has to file immediately for H11 to H4
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fundo14
02-19 12:36 PM
Hi All,
I wanted to share my experience at the port of entry using AP.
Just to give a quick background me and my wife have been working on H1 for last 8 years, we both were working on our H1’s at the time of leaving for vacation one month back.
Our 485/EAD/AP was filed on July 2nd, 2007; my wife is a Primary Applicant.
We have our 485 receipts/ approved EAD’s and AP’s with us.
Also, our H1 Petition’s are valid till 2010 but the stamping on passport is expired, we did not get stamping in India as we intended to enter using AP
At the Port of entry this is how it went:
Officer: Very rudely asked for our passports & I-94
We gave him our Passports, I-94 forms and Original AP’s
Officer: What’s the purpose of your visit?
Our Answer: To join back at our respective work.
Officer: Work? Who’s the primary applicant?
My answer: My wife
Officer: Then how the hell you will work here, you cannot work here, only your wife can work as the petition is on her name, you are a derivative.
My answer: But I have work Authorization (showed our EAD cards)
Officer: That’s all bullhshit, does not mean anything…you can not work here.
My answer: I politely told him that sir when we left country a month ago we both were working on H1’s, now we are seeking entry on AP.
Officer: yeh but don’t do fraud, you cannot work here (Very rudely)...who told you that you can work here.
My Answer: Again I explained politely- Sir, we filed for 485 which made us eligible to get EAD’s, showed him the EAD card again (which clearly states “Authorized to work in US till validity of this card” Our EAD’s are valid till end of 2008)
Officer: listen don’t teach me law, I have been working here for “x” number of years, and you think you know laws better than me.
After this I and my wife decided to keep quite as that moron was not ready to listen and understand anything.
Officer (rudely): I will set this straight for you…then we were asked to follow him in a separate room. Many people were waiting there I guess most of them using AP
The Officer went to one other custom officer there and pointed towards us and explained him something which we could not hear.
We waited � an hour till our named was called…I was worried that they will now create lot problems for us but to my surprise we were just handed our Passports along with AP’s / I-94 stamped as “AOS” and told you are all set... Absolutely No questions asked.
I am worried if he has entered some nasty remarks on my case…not sure.
Now this entire incident makes me wonder what that officer was talking about, my guess is one of the following:
1. He assumed throughout that my wife is entering on H1 and I on H4
2. Or he did realize his mistake but was too egoistic to accept it.
3. Or he was right and I was wrong about working on EAD (being derivative)...am I missing something here??
One of my suggestion from all this experience is that anybody entering on AP always state the purpose of visit is to “Resume pending AOS”
In last 8 years I have re-entered US like 6 times but never faced such a rude Immigration officer or have been treated like this.
Guru’s please advice if there is a possibility to reinstate our status as H1, we would rather work on H1 then on EAD’s
Thanks!
I wanted to share my experience at the port of entry using AP.
Just to give a quick background me and my wife have been working on H1 for last 8 years, we both were working on our H1’s at the time of leaving for vacation one month back.
Our 485/EAD/AP was filed on July 2nd, 2007; my wife is a Primary Applicant.
We have our 485 receipts/ approved EAD’s and AP’s with us.
Also, our H1 Petition’s are valid till 2010 but the stamping on passport is expired, we did not get stamping in India as we intended to enter using AP
At the Port of entry this is how it went:
Officer: Very rudely asked for our passports & I-94
We gave him our Passports, I-94 forms and Original AP’s
Officer: What’s the purpose of your visit?
Our Answer: To join back at our respective work.
Officer: Work? Who’s the primary applicant?
My answer: My wife
Officer: Then how the hell you will work here, you cannot work here, only your wife can work as the petition is on her name, you are a derivative.
My answer: But I have work Authorization (showed our EAD cards)
Officer: That’s all bullhshit, does not mean anything…you can not work here.
My answer: I politely told him that sir when we left country a month ago we both were working on H1’s, now we are seeking entry on AP.
Officer: yeh but don’t do fraud, you cannot work here (Very rudely)...who told you that you can work here.
My Answer: Again I explained politely- Sir, we filed for 485 which made us eligible to get EAD’s, showed him the EAD card again (which clearly states “Authorized to work in US till validity of this card” Our EAD’s are valid till end of 2008)
Officer: listen don’t teach me law, I have been working here for “x” number of years, and you think you know laws better than me.
After this I and my wife decided to keep quite as that moron was not ready to listen and understand anything.
Officer (rudely): I will set this straight for you…then we were asked to follow him in a separate room. Many people were waiting there I guess most of them using AP
The Officer went to one other custom officer there and pointed towards us and explained him something which we could not hear.
We waited � an hour till our named was called…I was worried that they will now create lot problems for us but to my surprise we were just handed our Passports along with AP’s / I-94 stamped as “AOS” and told you are all set... Absolutely No questions asked.
I am worried if he has entered some nasty remarks on my case…not sure.
Now this entire incident makes me wonder what that officer was talking about, my guess is one of the following:
1. He assumed throughout that my wife is entering on H1 and I on H4
2. Or he did realize his mistake but was too egoistic to accept it.
3. Or he was right and I was wrong about working on EAD (being derivative)...am I missing something here??
One of my suggestion from all this experience is that anybody entering on AP always state the purpose of visit is to “Resume pending AOS”
In last 8 years I have re-entered US like 6 times but never faced such a rude Immigration officer or have been treated like this.
Guru’s please advice if there is a possibility to reinstate our status as H1, we would rather work on H1 then on EAD’s
Thanks!
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chantu
06-02 03:05 PM
I think she can study. She can go on F1.
ARUNRAMANATHAN
06-11 02:23 PM
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nc14
02-18 03:41 PM
So, if one is going for Intemized Deductions, can we actually put the expenses that we have incurred for 485 filing (lawyer fees + fees to USCIS) as deductions?
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